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apollo.ra
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:59 pm Reply with quote
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i ordered this release but after a closer look i spotted a mistake here:

http://www.hrrecords.de/high_roller/sites/release_detail.php?relno=193

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HRR 193, limited to 1000 copies, 100 x "crystal" green/ white splatter, 300 x "crystal" green + 500 x black vinyl, gatefold cover, poster


100+300+500=900
what's with the other 100 Question Question

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Nonseinormale65
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:06 am Reply with quote
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Click on the pics below the cover artwork,it seems to exist two different versions of the black vinyl(one of them has white label,but maybe it is the test pressing...),while the other three versions have pink label...

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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:39 am Reply with quote
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can't believe there are 100 test pressings.. Confused
got the black vinyl with red label so the white ones are probably test pressings though, musik-sammler.de claims the splatter ones are 200..
however, am sure Steffen can confirm

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apollo.ra
Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:17 pm Reply with quote
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Stefan in both online store and internet auction claims is limited to 100 copies so I don't think there are 200 splatter.
Unless the one is Green with white splatters and the other is white with green splatters??

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apollo.ra
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:56 am Reply with quote
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Steffen fixed the page,
the Black ones were 600

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apollo.ra
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:40 am Reply with quote
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I remember all the shitty noise around the second pressing on the Brocas Helm - Defender LP and people complaining about why Greg made a second pressing to an item listed as "limited".

But no-one seems to care about this second pressing, to an item also listed as "limited"

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2nd edition: ltd 500, 250 x "crytal clear" vinyl + 250 x black vinyl, 425gsm heavy gatefold cover

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:53 am Reply with quote
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apollo.ra wrote:
I remember all the shitty noise around the second pressing on the Brocas Helm - Defender LP and people complaining about why Greg made a second pressing to an item listed as "limited".

But no-one seems to care about this second pressing, to an item also listed as "limited"

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2nd edition: ltd 500, 250 x "crytal clear" vinyl + 250 x black vinyl, 425gsm heavy gatefold cover


Good point.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:20 pm Reply with quote
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:48 pm Reply with quote
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apollo.ra wrote:
I remember all the shitty noise around the second pressing on the Brocas Helm - Defender LP and people complaining about why Greg made a second pressing to an item listed as "limited".

But no-one seems to care about this second pressing, to an item also listed as "limited"

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2nd edition: ltd 500, 250 x "crytal clear" vinyl + 250 x black vinyl, 425gsm heavy gatefold cover


The difference is greg posts here so we are able to tell him what we think.

Bring on the HRR guys and I'll tell them the same thing. This is a bullshit tactic that is morally wrong. All in the name of capitalism.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:50 pm Reply with quote
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There are a few differences though:

Crystal Logic was originally issued on Black Dragon and Roadster records. High Roller has no affiliation with these labels whatsoever. Brocas Helm was reissued on the same label that released the original.

Time between issue/reissue is also different. Crystal Logic was reissued some 25 years after the original came out, the Brocas Helm reissue was out just a few months after.

I'm not saying one way is more morally acceptable than the other, just pointing out the differences.

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apollo.ra
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:56 pm Reply with quote
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No, i'm not talking about the whole reissue....
I'm talking about the NEW 500 copies that are going to come now, after the first 1000 copies.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:02 pm Reply with quote
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You forget that not all people are ''collectors" and they just want to get a copy in vinyl. The 1st pressing of green and black vinyls was sold out in less than 1 month!
The problem you have, and I have the same problem, is that we want to own all pressings! I think that the truth from the eays of the dealer is somewhere in the middle!
Regarding Greg, I believe he made a second pressing for more "just fans" to buy the album in vinyl format, but he made it splater strange coloured and not black, for "collectors" to buy it too! I still haven't bought the 2nd pressing but I will surelly do!

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:28 pm Reply with quote
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Buying multiple copies of the same album may help keeping some of these companies in business, which means more cool stuff brought out in the public in hallowed vinyl form. If you don't like it, don't buy it!

What is it the "collector's" are afraid of? The second-hand value of an album or the fact that more people are enabled to enjoy a copy of a great album on their turntable? Buying stuff for the sake of boosting your self-importance and uniqueness seem very "poser" to me.

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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:25 pm Reply with quote
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GJ wrote:
...or the fact that more people are enabled to enjoy a copy of a great album on their turntable? Buying stuff for the sake of boosting your self-importance and uniqueness seem very "poser" to me.


I don't think that there are people thinking like this.

The reason I personally buy multiple copies has a lot to do with the second-hand price of the record but it has nothing to do with making profit! I don't like that hell with vinyl price tags and curbing public with very high price tags on lists which reflects to ebay. I think trading is fair enough and I prefer to do it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:39 pm Reply with quote
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Read here first before continuing the discussion about re-pressing "limited editions". If you still feel the need to comment after doing so then I will split the two threads and make a seperate one specifically for this issue. /Mod

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