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| Avenger |
 Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:43 am |
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Dark Stranger wrote: Avenger wrote: Trigger wrote: Try to separate objective thinking and judging from the bitchy-malicious one.
The bottom line is that the scope of this website/forum is dedicated to collecting and that being the case, my opinion is based from a collector stand point. If I purchased a copy of this the first time around I would be pissed off too. You don't market something as "limited edition" when it's not actually "limited edition".
Is it not that the first green vinyl handnumbered edition is the limited one? If Greg put out a run of 525 green vinyls, that would be shady, but what's wrong with pressing 525 of a different colour? The original limited green vinyl ones are the rarer ones now.
The release itself was marketed as "limited edition" not specifically the color of vinyl that the record was pressed on. |
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| Dodens Grav |
| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:12 am |
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| Avenger |
| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:24 am |
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Dodens Grav wrote: Get over it.
Go buy the second pressing. |
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| eatmetalgreg |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:42 am |
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Avenger wrote: eatmetalgreg wrote: hey avenger.....
your mother yesterday night said she prefers my first "black" version....
when are you visiting Europe my friend?
I see things never change greg. Your still making empty threats over the internet...
How about actually discussing the topic at hand? You are, after all, the cause of the issue.
everybody here, knows you're a loser....GET A LIFE, Piece of shit..... |
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| eatmetalgreg |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:47 am |
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as for empty threats, i would really love to see you in Europe some day......
come to see "empty" threats..... |
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| Avenger |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:25 am |
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eatmetalgreg wrote: Avenger wrote: eatmetalgreg wrote: hey avenger.....
your mother yesterday night said she prefers my first "black" version....
when are you visiting Europe my friend?
I see things never change greg. Your still making empty threats over the internet...
How about actually discussing the topic at hand? You are, after all, the cause of the issue.
everybody here, knows you're a loser....GET A LIFE, Piece of shit.....
eatmetalgreg wrote: as for empty threats, i would really love to see you in Europe some day......
come to see "empty" threats.....
I thought you were coming to my house to beat me up? You had my address, remember?
It looks like someone doesn’t know how to take a little criticism. |
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| GJ |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:55 am |
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| OmenOfSteel |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:30 pm |
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ION BRITTON wrote: OmenOfSteel wrote:
If you only care for the music and not the medium it's on: why not just download the music ?
Quickest, cheapest and easiest.
In this logic there are only two kinds of fans: the ones who actually buy things and collect everything and those who only care about the music and have no need to buy anything. Where do people like me stand who like the music and like to have an original copy without giving a shit about details such as the color of the vinyl?
Maybe the 'limited pressing' announcement was wrong, however it's not the first time this happens and it won't be the last either. I guess some of the collectors might feel kinda exploited with this second run, but then again people who like spending money on obtaining two or three different color versions of an album that contains the same music usually don't have serious financial problems, one more different color version probably won't make much difference to their pockets. This second run gives the chance to more fans to get a copy and enjoy the music which is something positive. It's not as positive to the ones who like to collect everything, but we are not talking about the majority in this case. Most fans will definitely benefit from this second pressing.
Of course the statement you quoted is showing only the extremes and I know there is something in between.
But all in all it's very easy, this release was marketed specially to gain the interest from collectors (therefore the limitation that wouldnt have been neccessary otherwise) and as it sold better than expected, there's a new cash-in with the repress, that I'm sure wasn't planed from the beginning.
I would be interested to hear how John/OPM or Rob/DOOMED PLANET see this who are both registered here. They were among the first to do limited edition vinyl releases, and they never broke their word even though some/most of their releases sold well and quickly.
Honestly I dont understand the discussion. A promise has been made and wasn't kept, the limited edition was a lie, and still there's ppl. defending it.
This will not be the end of the world, but it still is wrong.
I know a lot of ppl. getting tired to collect new releases already, and yes, I'm one of them. |
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| Herkus Monte |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:03 pm |
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OmenOfSteel wrote: Honestly I dont understand the discussion. A promise has been made and wasn't kept, the limited edition was a lie, and still there's ppl. defending it.
Promise? Have Eat Metal ever promised to never re-press 'Defenders...'? Can you quote it by chance? |
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| Avenger |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:38 pm |
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OmenOfSteel wrote: I would be interested to hear how John/OPM or Rob/DOOMED PLANET see this who are both registered here. They were among the first to do limited edition vinyl releases, and they never broke their word even though some/most of their releases sold well and quickly.
The difference is that OPM/Doomed Planet were respectable labels. Eat metal is not.
Herkus Monte wrote: OmenOfSteel wrote: Honestly I dont understand the discussion. A promise has been made and wasn't kept, the limited edition was a lie, and still there's ppl. defending it.
Promise? Have Eat Metal ever promised to never re-press 'Defenders...'? Can you quote it by chance?
It's really quite simple.
What does "limited edition" mean? |
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| Trigger |
| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:11 pm |
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| Rob has already quoted on that,so don't bother asking.You ask the opinion of a fan/collector and another one from a collector/dealer,what do you expect to get?But using the word "fraud" is quite harsh,don't you see?You should consider other things as more of a fraud in the record selling business but you probably avoid doing so for obvious reasons.Also,you don't call it a "fraud" when other labels-(buddies?) act in a similar fashion or even when the product offered is of questionable quality.If your question is whether Greg did it for collectors,then the answer is no,this release wasn't intended for collectors and the fact that not 5000 copies were made needs no explanation why.You take a risk when collecting records,that's what all collectors say till the LP is officially registered a collectible one,sometimes the risk is not coming through. |
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| eatmetalgreg |
| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:01 am |
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[quote="Avenger"]OmenOfSteel wrote: I would be interested to hear how John/OPM or Rob/DOOMED PLANET see this who are both registered here. They were among the first to do limited edition vinyl releases, and they never broke their word even though some/most of their releases sold well and quickly.
The difference is that OPM/Doomed Planet were respectable labels. Eat metal is not.
who says that? |
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| Dodens Grav |
| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:48 am |
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Avenger wrote: Dodens Grav wrote: Get over it.
Go buy the second pressing.
Is this supposed to be an insult?
Somebody whining because an LP being repressed makes their copy of the album less cool and special is the single gayest thing I've ever read on the internet. |
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| apollo.ra |
| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:48 am |
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Dodens Grav wrote:
Somebody whining because an LP being repressed makes their copy of the album less cool and special is the single gayest thing I've ever read on the internet.
Post of the year!
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| perishinflames |
| Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:12 am |
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Dodens Grav wrote: Somebody whining because an LP being repressed makes their copy of the album less cool and special is the single gayest thing I've ever read on the internet.
You've got it all wrong. It's not about "cool and special", it's about the repress devaluing all the 'original' copies being hoarded for later profit. Greg has just taken a steaming shit on some stock portfolios.  |
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